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Bryan Delius

sevier county commission votes to raise property tax

published: July 24 2007 07:52 PM updated:: July 27 2007 02:06 PM

Story Update:
Video 1: Bryan Delius on taxes
Video 2: Part one of County Commission Meeting
Video 3: Part two of County Commission Meeting
Video 4: Part three of County Commission Meeting
Video 5: Part four of County Commission Meeting
Video 6: Part five of County Commission Meeting

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The County Commission gathered at a special meeting on Monday night to debate and vote on increasing area property taxes.

After hearing an impassioned plea from a local resident to not raise the tax, the commission asked School Superintendant, Jack Parton, to speak on the impact of not raising the tax.

Parton stated, "...the school system would be in a dire situation..." without the additional funds that would come from the tax. He went on to say that, "...immediate layoffs would be required..." if the tax did not pass.

Seymour area commission Bryan Delius challenged his colleges to find a more suitable source of funds for the school. He proposed a mineral tax; additionally, Delius argued in favor for a wheel tax to help fund the school budget.

After debating the issue of raising the tax, the county commission voted in favor of raising Sevier County property taxes from $1.34 per $100 in assessed value to $1.54 per $100 in assessed value. This .20 increase will bring an estimated $2.3 million into the county coffers.

After voting to increase the property tax, the county commission then voted to approve $1.6 in non-profit donations from the county to area non-profits.

The current budget shortfall is largely due to the new BEP2.0 formula recently approved by the General Assembly.

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User Comments

#1 k. knisley commented, on July 25, 2007 at 8:52 a.m.:

How many people were there? That place needs to be packed each time they meet about this matter. We need to let them know they can raise our taxes but by God we'll vote 'em out!

#2 Inteligunt desine commented, on July 25, 2007 at 9:29 a.m.:

This has to be a mistake. We've been told time and time again that the tourists, developers and builders will more than offset increased demand on infrastructure.

Maybe part of the raise can go to teach our elected officials math 101 (In college, courses are listed as 101, 201, 301, etc. - Math 101 is a first year college course. It doesn't require taking off your shoes to count to 20)!

How many of our local leaders were homeskool'd?

#3 to k. knisley commented, on July 25, 2007 at 10:42 a.m.:

I counted 56 People there; this included staff from various county offices that sat in the public seating area.

#4 D. Loveland commented, on July 25, 2007 at 6:05 p.m.:

The county commission has absolutely NO business donating my taxes to non-profit charities. I will choose which non-profits get my donations NOT the county. What just transpired was not a tax increase for schools but a money give away to some commissioner's favorite charity. These idiots need to be voted out of office, come on November.

#5 Broke again commented, on July 26, 2007 at 12:59 p.m.:

Great. All the deadbeats in the County get a job with the school (rated as the 15th largest employer in the Knox Region, even bigger than the City of Knoxville) and we get to pay for it. Too many morons like Delius Clabo and Hurst bandaiding the problem.

#6 Carl commented, on July 26, 2007 at 9:29 p.m.:

I agree with D Loveland, the county should not be giving the charities, let me make that decision.

#7 John Taxpayer commented, on July 26, 2007 at 10:20 p.m.:

Hey Guys, you put these meatheads in office and kept, Stuck on Stupid, Larry Waters in there for 28 years. What do you expect miracles?

You know you just can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap. You got the Dog Catcher selecting sheriffs and choosing what ehtics to follow and what charities to contribute to just because he has the right last name of KING. Nice going Good Ole Boys!

#8 John Taxpayer commented, on July 26, 2007 at 10:26 p.m.:

Hey is case you did not Know, Dollywood skews and distorts the BEP2 tax formula all out of wack. Maybe the time has come for the Missouri Mafia to kick in more instead of just kickbacks for all that cheap labor they get!

#9 Taxes for What? commented, on July 27, 2007 at 9:54 a.m.:

And perhaps if the county road commissioner would stop doing "ilegal" road work at the request of other commissioners, the road department might not need another tax increase. What a circus - the clowns are flying high.

#10 Ray Davis commented, on July 28, 2007 at 7:39 p.m.:

I think this opinion section is a good thing. Everyone should be aloud to voice their opinion. The only thing wrong is everyone seems to be afraid to put their name to their opinion. Keep giving your opinion if you can stand behind it. If you can’t stand behind it move back to Michigan or where ever it is your from. We here in Sevier County stand behind our word and are not afraid to let people know it.

#11 John Taxpayer commented, on July 29, 2007 at 9:59 a.m.:

A county of nameless cowards who hide in the shadows. If you can't beat them, then join them! Get a White Cap and a stick!

#12 local that is sick of taxpayer John ( even though commented, on July 29, 2007 at 8:28 p.m.:

John the Taxpayer - you are a waste of human blood - but I have to say you have read the White Cap history book - most of us were not even alive back then - just like during the days of slavery - we moved on and continue to try and make a better life for ourselves and YOU You stay in the days of old- I guess your memory only goes so far. Get over !!!!

#13 Historian commented, on August 2, 2007 at 9:08 a.m.:

History repeats itself you fool and leapards never change spots, get educated! The past brought about the present and dictates it. Reading this paper on line is not manditory! As poorly operated as this one is, I see why the motels throw it out in bundles. I just have a parakette and need something to line the bottom of her cage with!

#14 BIG_K commented, on August 2, 2007 at 3:23 p.m.:

Mikey, er, I mean John, lol... when you change names and chant the same rant, you are not fooling anyone. Get over those white caps will you? Just because The Hendersons whipped your daddy & uncle is no excuse to keep it alive. It's over, it happened, talking about it won't change it.
Mikey is like a robot, he only speaks in cliche's and quotes. He never answers a question, nor debates, it's always Mikey's way or the highway.

#15 Taxpayer too... commented, on August 2, 2007 at 8:51 p.m.:

John Taxpayer need to either put his name on the next ballot or shut the h##@ up. (In my humble opinion of course.)

#16 Robert Gervais commented, on August 4, 2007 at 2:52 a.m.:

Mike A.K.A. John Taxpayer can’t put his name on the ballot because he is a convicted felon. Have you not heard what he did with farm animals?

#17 Citizen Reporter commented, on August 4, 2007 at 1:26 p.m.:

Well the last time I saw Brian he was telling a jury that the Pigeon Forge police need to get up out of the river on National Television in the Stan Martin Trial. He lost that case and Pigeon Forge Police are still in the river.

#18 Melissa D. from Kodak commented, on August 5, 2007 at 8:29 p.m.:

Bob is my real dad. Mom told me was TEN times the man little Mike is. (in every way)
So why don’t you get out of the river?

#19 Ray D. commented, on August 6, 2007 at 6:02 p.m.:

Mike you have been fired from every hamburger joint around so your not a taxpayer, You don’t know anything about history of a week ago much less than any time past that so you wouldn’t make a pimple on an historians ass. You know my mother in law told me you were not even a real man. Why don’t you get a life?

#20 Bob G. commented, on August 6, 2007 at 9:35 p.m.:

Mike you need to back into a goat.

#21 JJ commented, on August 9, 2007 at 12:31 a.m.:

You know who is selling the land to the Yankees 1st?
The people that owned it and did not have the knowledge develop it.
**Or maybe, bit@h, they didn't WANT to develop it!! Maybe SOME of the natives, actually love the mountains and scenery and mtn. life, and do not wish to develop their land, and turn it into another Vegas! Maybe they're just selling it, to get AWAY from the hellhole of year round tourism and traffic (road rage). Maybe they're tired of trying to get TO the store, only to stand in line forever, because the dumb Yankee vacationers have nothing better to do than stand around w/their thumbs up the a$$; camp-out in their RVs in WalMart parking lot (totally other topic); and drive like it's their first time on the road.Maybe they're tired of looking up at our (once beautiful) mtns. and seeing subdivisions of cabins hanging off the sides.
As to your comment re: The Russians, polish, ect... that come here to work because they know that there are jobs to be had because the locals are too lazy to do the work.
No...genius, they come here to work, because we let them. They come here temporarily, and stay for good.
I work in a medical office.And did you know that one day while assisting in stitching up a little Russian girl's finger, I asked her, "Are you up to date on your immunizations?" Her reply was,'I dunno'. I then asked, "Before you left Russia, to come to America...did you have ANY shots? Or, do you have an immunization record?" Her reply was,'No. No.' I asked, "No shots? None? Before leaving Russia? Have you had a Tetanus shot, ever?"
Guess what genius? No again.
And regarding the 'locals selling drugs, stealing, welfare, etc.' Read the paper! You DO read the paper, don't you? THat IS why dozens of adults are 'bit@hing' on here, isn't it? Well, do you look at the arrests in the paper, when you're reading it?(Or do you live in Sevier Co.?) If so, you'd know that 90% of the arrests are MExicans, and other immigrants. Come to my work...and see how many 'immigrants'(Mexicans) get welfare.
To the 'Dollywood tickets' thing...I hate Dollywood..and wouldn't care if they gave me tickets. I was simply saying that Sevier Co. NATIVES (lots of them, who ARE hard workers) do not even get discounts. I know lots who've never even been to one show here. THere are, however, a few (and I do mean a few) business owners, who offer 'free' tickets to us....but, not many. I just think it's a crock.

#22 John Taxpayer commented, on August 9, 2007 at 6:37 p.m.:

My name will be on the next ballot. I am just getting famous now as the first phase of the process. There will be a lot of new names on the next ballot to choose from and you can count on that.

#23 John Taxpayer commented, on August 10, 2007 at 10:10 p.m.:

This is what I like. A Good Ole Boy demonstration of racism and discrimination in the proud White Cap Heratige of Sevier County. Cowards that must hide their names and faces in shame. WHITE CAP COWARDS!

#24 Ray D. commented, on August 11, 2007 at 12:58 a.m.:

For the first time Crazy Mike is right. Only a COWARD would post something on here and hide behind a (John Taxpayer) made up name.
By the way Crazy Mike convicted felons can not run for office in the United States.

#25 John Taxpayer commented, on August 12, 2007 at 11:47 p.m.:

No kidding. Now you spoiled it for some of our County Commissioners. They will have to quit now!

#26 John Taxpayer commented, on August 13, 2007 at 1:38 p.m.:

Sevier ridges stirring skeptics
Some residents wary of officials who have development interests
By Thomas Benning (Contact)
Monday, August 13, 2007

Among the proponents for regulation of hillside and ridge development in Sevier County, Ben Clabo would admit that he is an unlikely member.

For years, the county commissioner voted and politicked on the side of property owners’ rights. Clabo, who lives at the base of Cove Mountain, was initially against planning and at first opposed zoning.

But Clabo’s position on steep-slope development came into focus on a personal level. An avid foxhunter, Clabo used to hunt at least once a week at any number of spots in the county. But one day a developer bought one of his favorite spots on Big Pine Mountain.

“All of a sudden, there wasn’t a mountain there,” he said. “It kind of woke me up. I began to see what was happening.”

The views of Clabo and other elected officials on hillside- and ridge-development regulation are becoming increasingly important as Sevier County and its municipalities prepare to receive recommendations from the New York-based consulting firm Saratoga Associates.

This decision-making step has proven difficult in previous years. Efforts to pass subdivision and zoning regulations were successful, but only after heated, drawn-out affairs. It took six years for countywide zoning to be implemented.

County Mayor Larry Waters said government bodies will begin receiving final recommendations in September and that the time frame for a decision on steep-slope regulations should be relatively short.

“We are looking at tweaking rules, extending some rules,” he said. “It’s not like we are creating whole new organizations to do this.”

Two public meetings will be held today and Tuesday to discuss the final recommendations, but public comments previously complied by Saratoga suggests that some residents are skeptical going into the implementation stage of regulations.

Six of the 30 comments gathered from the first public meeting in June said the problem with the current state of hillside development was local government. One said the problem is “Sevier County Commission members with vested interests in exponential growth/development ($$) without regard for heritage, culture and environment.”

The CEO of Saratoga Associates, Bob Bristol, said those types of concerns are typical and that the criticisms of government in Sevier County were not more or less scathing than in other areas. He said the makeup of the County Commission seemed normal, as well.

“Most people who get elected to public office have other jobs,” he said, “so it’s not surprising that some of them would be involved with development.”

There are at least four commissioners on the 25-member County Commission with direct ties to development, although not necessarily of the steep-slope variety: Warren Hurst, Jimbo Conner, Kenneth Whaley and Kent Woods. None of these commissioners could be reached for comment.

Commissioner Jim Keener, a former real estate agent and auctioneer, said in an e-mail that the anti-development crowd was being unfair in offering such broad accusations against the commission.

“They make untrue statements about people and accuse everyone involved in Sevier County government to be in some kind of conspiracy of property owners and developers to desecrate the land we all love,” Keener wrote. “I can assure you that less than five members of the twenty-five member commission could be tied to Sevier County development in any shape, form or fashion.”

According to the recently passed county ethics code, officials must disclose personal financial interest in voting matters. Officials are allowed to abstain from voting in such situations, but it is not a requirement.

Commissioner Mike Hillard said his development-tied colleagues were already good about abstaining if they had a project in the Planning Commission. Hillard, who had not seen Saratoga’s preliminary report, said that without knowing the specific recommendations, it would be hard to say how development-involved commissioners should proceed.

Waters said a variety of opinions on the regulations should be expected, regardless of who is connected to development or not and that officials will have to weigh protecting both hilltops and property rights.

“I think that there are folks out there who are not even developers who are very protective of property rights,” he said. “Just because you don’t agree with someone does not mean someone is unethical.”

Of the commissioners contacted, most took a wait-and-see approach to the recommendations. However, Clabo and Keener offered their opinions.

Clabo said he doesn’t want all steep-slope development stopped, but that he would like to see some reasonable standards put into place. Keener shared similar views. He wrote that reckless development needs to be prevented, but that property rights need to be considered, too.

Keener added that as the county moves toward a decision on potential hillside and ridge regulations, all citizens, regardless of viewpoint, need to come together to strike a balance.

“Let’s stop accusing each other,” he wrote, “and get down to work on things we can do to preserve Sevier County that is fair to everyone.”

#27 John Taxpayer commented, on August 14, 2007 at 6:37 p.m.:

We are a government Of the People, By the People and For the people. The power of petition is our and the most important document of our government is a Petition. It is called The Declaration of Independence!

We need to declare an Independent Citizens Oversight Review Board for our local Politicians and Law Enforcement Departments. They simply can not be trusted to regulate themselves anymore. We need to be looking over the shoulders of our county Commissioners and Sheriff 24/7. As of now, we have the inmates in charge of the asylum. This has got to change and fast. We must not accept taxation without representation. We don't have too. Our Federal Constitution give us specific rights of peaceful assembly and we need to start demanding our civil rights. This Good Ole Boy stuff is for the birds. They get the goldmine and we get the shaft. I don't think so. Collectively there is a lot of knowledge and talent in this county that is neglected because of birthplace. I think it is time for Joe Karl and Jim Meyers to step up to the plate and form a Citizens Committee of Oversight. Joe has a news paper and this forum and Jim has a cool head and can argue his point eloquently and factually. The time has come for us to look for leadership in all the right places, not the same old wrong ones. There are just too many secret deals going on and as seen by the Knoxville City Council debacle, thing get out of hand real fast.

#28 JOYCE O. MOORESIDE commented, on August 17, 2007 at 10:16 a.m.:

I HATE TO HEAR YOU MAKE FUN OF OUR SHERIFF. I KNOW TWO COPS IN SEVIER COUNTY ONE IS FAT & LAZY & THE OTHER ONE IS A COWARD.

#29 John Taxpayer commented, on August 17, 2007 at 10:29 a.m.:

Responsible people in Knox County are fed up with this Good Ole Boy Nepotism and an investigative reporter has just broadsided The County Mayor.

http://www.knoxviews.com/node/5395

It is time for the responsible people of Sevier County to stand up to these Good Ole Boys. The problem with our current sheriff is that he corrupt and has half his family on the department. Nepotism need to be removed not given a badge and a gun. If he runs for election, he will have to face his very seedy past.

#30 Catherine Gebhardt, Sevierville resident and taxpa commented, on August 18, 2007 at 3:37 p.m.:

I find the extremes of conjecture of this forum to be most interesting. I do believe that the cronyism and nepotism in this county which is part of the "Good Ol Boy" history has set a very corrosive tone for the youth enrolled in the Sevier county school system, which in essence, has permeated the entire system and affects our kids most adversely. When politics is placed above instruction and standards of accountability in teaching personnel/or administrators, we have a very big problem! Raising taxes may offset some of these costs, however, without fiscal accountability and responsibility, it will not matter if the system has a monetary surplus or a deficit, it will never be enough! Removing substandard teaching personnel from the payroll would certainly free up monies! Demanding accountability from school officials is not something that is asking them to "go over and above", it simply is asking them to get with the rest of the Western Hemisphere! This system is funded primarily off the backs of good hard working people! I have talked with countless parents and kids in this community who admit there are many problems that exist within the school system. There are some very good educators in the system who readily admit that there are problems which seem insurmountable at times, however these individuals find themselves in a very precarious situation as to voice this aloud, may mean termination of their jobs. Ideally we would all like to think that teaching personnel and administrators have your childs utmost welfare at stake! However, this is not always true. There are some that lead with reverence, compassion, and by example who wish for your child to flourish and work very altruistically. There are also some right here in this county school system who berate children, chastise children, bully children, induce fear, threaten, humiliate, and cause undue substantial forms of emotional distress. Yet, there is no EFFECTIVE systematic means of lodging complaints. When one lodges a complaint, say with a business, they do expect those to conduct a fair, impartial, and unbiased investigation in attempting to resolve the problem. In this current system, the business of educating our children, administrators and some teaching personnel vehemently deny that problems occur, or worse yet, give you lip service, without resolution....and the problem continues to mount, escalate, and fester. Problems are ignored, minimized, blatantly denied...and there is no current EFFECTIVE avenue to redress legitimate grievances within the Sevier county school system. This type of conduct equates to bullying, as this type of behavior is rooted in a power differential. If our kids conducted themselves in this way toward teachers or administrators, they would be penalized. However, the abusive conduct of some educators and administrators goes without consequence! This seems to be a gross DOUBLE STANDARD which is typical of good ol boy politics! Perhaps if we had accountable and responsive officials who really cared about the youth enrolled in the school system who wished for all to receive fair treatment, regardless of last name, socio-economic background, race, gender, and the like, our youth would all flourish! I certainly then would not mind paying more for property taxes if I were certain that these factors were rectified and all were working toward this ideal. However, currently, we certainly do not get our money's worth! We all need to collectively stand together and demand a better environment for our children enrolled in the system. Sevier county schools do lack even the most basic of supplies, however the central office in Sevierville (which houses the administrative personnel for Sevier county schools) does have a ROOF that the Director of schools asked the commission for last year....to the tune of one MILLION two HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars! Does that make us feel better? How exactly did that help or benefit the youth in the school systems scattered across the county?

#31 Catherine Gebhardt, Sevierville resident and taxpa commented, on August 18, 2007 at 3:57 p.m.:

There is a new parental awareness group that has formed out of necessity to address the issues that exist in Sevier County schools. Please go to website http://www.myhometownpeeps.info
Together we can make a difference!

#32 John Taxpayer commented, on August 24, 2007 at 12:21 p.m.:

And if a picture paints a thousand words, then how shall I paint you Sevier County Commissioners? This is not your finest hour. I should think you'd want to put on a prettier face, especially while the eyes of so many strangers look upon you during this time of turmoil. This author is very much alive. This stranger's eyes are piercing, and you've shown yourselves to me clearly. What I've seen isn't pretty. What this stranger's eyes have seen is ugly.

I do like the "SPACE COMMITTEE" though. All you need do is look between your ears and you will find plenty!

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